Patrick Johnson, pen name SB Jones, is the self published
author of The Eternal Gateway series. He
comes from a strong technical background after working for Dell Inc. for eight
years and a regular attendee of the DefCon hacker convention.
Tell us a little about the Eternal Gateway Trilogy.
The Eternal Gateway Trilogy centers on a once
hidden artifact in the jungle that allows certain worthy people to see and
travel to the past or future. I use a
mix of light steampunk: airships, gunpowder tech, trains and mega cities. Traditional high fantasy: magic, swords and
sorcery. And science fiction: time
travel, and physics. The first novel,
Requiem, is a classic hero’s journey of the main character going from the
ordinary to the extraordinary. Guardian
takes place five years after the events of Requiem and is a much darker,
emotionally charged novel that the characters have to deal with the harsh
realities of war. The fun adventure is
over, it’s real now. The final book,
Sentinel, is where everything comes together.
The time travel elements will have you reaching for books one and two
again. Redemption and revenge are the
main themes as everything comes full circle.
Where does inspiration for your characters and stories come
from?
Most of the characters come from
decades ago pen and paper roll playing games created from grade school through
high school. Some started from video
games, movies, or TV shows. For example,
Kail and Angela were characters from the pen and paper games, while the airship
captain, Camden Arland, I tried to model after LOST’s Sawyer. As I wrote Requiem, I just wasn’t able to
make Camden
into a grumpy guy that hated that he had to do the right thing. My editor says he reminds her of Jack O’Neill
from Stargate.
Do you have any
advice for aspiring authors trying to create a trilogy?
Plan, plan, and plan some more. As I learn and become more experienced with
writing my views change a lot. A big
part of me wishes that I had not published Requiem until the whole trilogy had
been written. I am almost finished
writing book two and there so many details that I could go plant seeds for in
book one that have cropped up. I know
deep down the trilogy would be better for it if I had waited. But at the same time, if I had not released
Requiem, all of the feedback, comments, and people asking me when the next book
comes out, seeing people smile and shaking hands at book signings would never
have happened. Without that, there is a
very good chance it would never have been anything more than a rough draft and
an outline.
Being a regular follower of your blog, I have realized that
you are a serious plotter and outliner. Can you tell us about your plotting
method?
I like to start with note cards. I put chapters or scenes on them and lay them
out on my bar. It’s nice because you can
easily move them around until you get the events the way you want. It helps eliminate plot holes or giant gaps
in events. Regardless of what you do,
things happen that you did not plan for so it needs to be flexible enough that
you can adjust and not have to go back or redo work.
Did you try the traditional publishing route or did you go
straight into the self-publishing way?
Honestly I intended to go the traditional
route first. I wrote 5 short children
stories called Stan the Man. My plan was to get Scholastic to pick them up
and use that success and money to fund the time while I worked on The Eternal
Gateway. That never happened I just
shook my head at the whole query, agent, wait two to ten years for an answer
business. Without an artist or
publisher, Stan the Man was shelved.
When I was in the first rounds of edits for Requiem, I heard about
Amanda Hocking. It’s easy to guess where
things went from there.
You have said that “One of the nicest thing about being self
published, is the fact that your success is directly related to the effort you
put in.” How are you going about marketing your book?
Marketing is a topic that will
never end. I think what most self
published and even traditionally published authors fail to realize until they
are in the middle of it is this.
Writing/story telling is an art.
Publishing is a business. A lot
of authors throw their work up expecting hundreds or thousands of people to buy
their book. When it doesn’t happen by
next week, they blame Amazon for it. A
lot put in time and effort to blog, tweet, and Facebook all day, but still fail
to sell. When you look at these authors
they are doing a good job marketing to their peers, not their customers. Great, you have 500 followers, but they are
all other authors. Look up @day9tv on
twitter. 71,000+ followers. Those are all fans, not other internet tv
hosts. Blowing a $100 for a Google ad
for a weekend isn’t going to work. You
are better off buying $100 worth of your own book and giving them away at the
mall. The majority of my success has
been from getting myself out there. Book
signings, shaking hands, small talk to the person behind you at the checkout
line. And always, always have something
on you to give people. A business card
with the cover and information to buy the book.
I have sold more paperbacks and eBooks this way than from blogging,
tweeting, and posting on forums. Don’t
neglect these, because they will with time generate sales. It can take years though for it to happen.
What have you learned about marketing your first book? How
will it influence your marketing strategy for your next two books?
I wouldn’t call it a mistake, but I
launched Requiem on Monday June 20. The
next day Bantam Books dropped like 140 back listed Star Wars books on
Amazon. When you checked to see what was
new in science fiction my book was instantly shoved 10 pages deep.
Coordinating sales is something I
am going to try with Guardian. It
doesn’t take many sales to push your Amazon ranking up the charts. For example if 50 people buy your book spread
out through a month, your ranking will be much lower than if you had those same
50 sales in a day or two. So planning
with friends, family, and generating presales and letting people know well in
advance when it goes for sale is very important. Hitting a top 100 subgenera on Amazon is very
important for sales.
Last is picking a better launch
date. I have read several times that
launching around holidays that have gifts are ideal over random days. Christmas, Mothers Day, Fathers Day etc are
better than mid July or late September.
How do you manage
writing, marketing, blogging, as well as publishing your books? Is there a secret
time management skill you would like to share with my readers?
There is no secret. People have heard this one before. I treat it like a job. Tuesdays are my online marketing days, I
rarely get any writing done now on Tuesdays as I make the blog rounds, post
comments, post a blog, hit the forums, find new blogs, tweet, Facebook and
everything else.
The other weekdays, I write. I get started around 10am, check emails, do a
quick look through Google Reader to see what’s new in blogging. If there are new blogs from certain people,
like yours Rachna, I will read it and leave a comment if I can. Once noon hits, I shut it all off, turn on
some music and start writing. Getting rid
of distractions is very important. It’s
all to easy to check your Amazon ranking, email, wander to a forum, browse
twitter and find that 3 hours have passed.
My advice for people who don’t have
the luxury of being a full time writer is you have to make time. Writing is a skill, it needs to be done over
and over, like exercise. Even an hour a day if you can get in 500-1000 words,
you can have a full length novel in 3-4 months.
Nothing will get the book done other than butt in chair.
Do you have a
favorite writing craft book?
I don’t. I don’t have any books on how to write. I use Google a lot to look things up when I
get stuck or I ask my mother who is a retired school teacher.
Thanks Patrick for giving us a peek into your creative process.
Patrick’s blog www.TheEternalGateway.com
Twitter as @starbuck_jones.
Requiem can be found in paperback and eBook at Amazon and
Barnes and Noble.
Barnes and Noble: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/requiem-sb-jones/1103851384
Thanks Rachna, for this awesome interview with Author Patrick Johnson. I sure have become a fan of his marketing strategy and plans. Really enjoyed the interview. His books sound wonderful.
ReplyDeleteNice interview! I liked reading about the time management skills also.
ReplyDeleteIt was a lovely read with a lot of sound advice!
ReplyDelete@ Meera.. Patrick does have a great marketing plan and strategy in place.
ReplyDelete@ Gargi..his time management skills made me envious.
@ Rahul...I specially liked his advice about plotting.
Great interview. Thanks Patrick for sharing your writing process and marketing plans. We learnt lots.
ReplyDelete@Meera- Thank you. They have been fun to write as well.
ReplyDelete@Gargimehra- You're welcome. Gotta just put in the time and if you can plan for it, it makes it a lot easier to get it done.
@Rahul- You're welcome.
@Tina- Thank you. Sharing information or teaching is something I did for about four years at Dell. It's something I enjoy.
This was great stuff, Rachna. Thanks for sharing, Patrick! I never would have thought about release dates and getting people to buy within a few days. Great stuff. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI can imagine the issues with the trilogy planning. Sounds like Patrick is doing a great job of tackling the other books though. Thanks Rachna!
ReplyDeleteGreat interview!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the advice. I have to get started on plotting a novel for NaNoWriMo, so I'll keep the note card point in mind.
@Victoria- Release dates can be important, but I wouldn't hold a book from launching because of one. If it's early March, I would not wait for Christmas to roll around again.
ReplyDelete@Lydia- Even with planning, there is still a lot of problem solving that happens. Things change and you have to be able to deal with those changes in later chapters and books.
TGE- Thank you. Good luck with the NaNoWriMo.
Ouch! On what happened with Bantam books.
ReplyDeleteGreat advice about writing all three books if you're going to self publish. With traditional publishing it's not recommended in case your first book doesn't sell.
Good luck with the trilogy. :D
Sounds like an intersting mix of genres in the series. Great interview and great tips on marketing
ReplyDeleteThe details of another's craft are so often not thought about, but when revealed almost invariably fascinating. Thanks for this.
ReplyDeleteWow, thanks for such an interesting interview, Rachna. I learned a lot about marketing. I wouldn't have thought of some of the points he made. (Well, getting cards with order information, yes, but a lot of the other points were well made.) His trilogy sounds interesting, too.
ReplyDeleteRad interview:) I always wonder how people's work effects their writing, and I work in the same industry, but pen pretty different stuff. Nonetheless, it's very intriguing:)
ReplyDelete@Stina- Thank you. Like with blockbuster movie releases, releasing at the same time as the next harry potter movie might not be the best of ideas.
ReplyDelete@Lynda- You're welcome. I hope they help.
@Dave- Thanks. You never know where you might find a tid-bit of useful information.
@Elizabeth- I'm glad you found something new.
@Mark- You're welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
What a great interview! I loved his marketing tactics. I'll look into them. Thanks for sharing Patrick with us, Rachna!
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Wonderful interview. I've been looking into marketing lately. What a job! Nice to meet you Patrick. Thank you, Rachna. :-)
ReplyDeleteYou are so right on the marketing. I've sold more books by being prepared in public. A notebook with my cover art has probably sold a few dozen copies for me. It's a conversation starter. I don't have to say I write, they ask me about the cool notebook. :) I've barely sold anything because of FB, but Twitter parties have sold a few for me.
ReplyDeleteGreat interview! Thanks Patrick and Rachna!
ReplyDeleteFantastic interview. It was interesting reading Patrick's publishing journey, plus I learned a few things about marketing. :)
ReplyDelete@Elizabeth- Thank you, I'm glad to share what I have learned.
ReplyDelete@Robyn- Nice to meet you too. Thank you for the compliment.
@Ciara- I had a custom tee shirt made at this years DefCon that says "Ask me about my book" on one side and the web address to my blog on the other.
@alexia- You're welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@Medeia- Thank you.
Yay for note cards! I'm doing the same thing right now :D
ReplyDeleteHis books like a heck of a lot of fun, and the cover is so cool.
Nice to meet you, Patrick! The books sound fascinating.
ReplyDeleteThanks for hosting, Rachna!